Training on lack of sleep

[Awakened615]

I will just sit here and make up threads for questions I want answered. As some of you know I have a major sleep disorder at the moment. In 21 days I have slept a max of 62 hours when I should be sleeping a minimum of 408. Not good. I could not got to the gym yesterday due to pure exhaustion from being awake so many days already. They say everyone is different. Im wondering if my body will still grow on this routine of sleep i have which is 2 hours a night. except I slept for 3 tonight. which is a first. I still go to work everyday but by noon I am drain and irritable and dont wanna drive home even. I have tried numerous route to go to sleep and all have failed thus far but I will figure something out eventually. Thanks for any suggestions and help guys. respectfully,Awakened

[PrideFightingFan]

I dont know how ya do it brother, i need 8-9 hours a night just to have the energy to workout. Hope ya can find a remedy soon. I assume you have tried various sleep meds?

[Midevil]

Go see a doctor Bro. The same thing happened to me a few years ago durring a divorce and it is unhealthy for you. I was percribed Albion and that stuff was the shit. i could sleep like a log and wake up refreshed...no hang over feeling. But, there are plaenty of sleep aids avalable over the counter too. Get some help Bro...you can't continue this way. Good Luck!

[Awakened615]

I am at day 21 without much sleep. I have tried everything as far as meds go. Nothing will knock my body out. I must have an imbalance of serotonin in the brain. Like the levels are way abnormal. Its horrible for your brain wanting rest and your body keeping you awake. I am irratable depressed anxious to do nothing but sleep and totally an emotional wreck. I havent cried since I was 12 years old and over the past 4 or 5 days I cant stop crying over nothing at all like a little girl. Not that there is anything wrong with crying. Its said its the body healing itself actually it feelsgood after 15-29 years to cry but it feels weird like I dont know how. I cant just let go and let it out I have to hold it back for some reason.

[SHINE]

Originally Posted by Awakened615

I am at day 21 without much sleep. I have tried everything as far as meds go. Nothing will knock my body out. I must have an imbalance of serotonin in the brain. Like the levels are way abnormal. Its horrible for your brain wanting rest and your body keeping you awake. I am irratable depressed anxious to do nothing but sleep and totally an emotional wreck. I havent cried since I was 12 years old and over the past 4 or 5 days I cant stop crying over nothing at all like a little girl. Not that there is anything wrong with crying. Its said its the body healing itself actually it feelsgood after 15-29 years to cry but it feels weird like I dont know how. I cant just let go and let it out I have to hold it back for some reason.

You on a lota test with no anti e like anastrazole.

IF I let estrogen levels get to high it makes me depressive and an emotinal bitch!

Talk to ur dock about EFFEXOR XR bro, I used it for a bit when I was on a shit ton load of tren and it helped me to sleep and mellow out.

[Awakened615]

Thanks shine. I am on 100mg of prop ed and 50mg of npp ed. I actually got about 5 hours of sleep lastnite. I made itto the gym today for an awesome workout. The best I have had in 3 weeks being back. Those extra 3 hours made a huge difference in my daily performance today.

[marx]

Sleep is heal and grow time for the bod, defrag time for the mind and a bit o peace for the spirit.

I'm guessing you've tried the nutritional route, and/or melatonin, valerian tincture...

Got to an herbalist, ask him about lobelia, it stills the body and mind. Powerful shit though, not to be farted around with blindly.

Or go to a doc- sleep is essential ( No shit, ehhh?)

[-X-]

honestly i would drop down to hrt dose till your body gets shit right, if your not sleeping your just wasting it anyway....

[Condor]

Originally Posted by -X-

honestly i would drop down to hrt dose till your body gets shit right, if your not sleeping your just wasting it anyway....

Agree 100%. I'd say do your best to nip this problem in the butt (NOT implying that you haven't been trying), because you're only as good as you're weakest link, and sleep is just too important to BB, happiness, overall health/well-being, etc.

Quick disclaimer for this post: Any pharmaceutical/substance below, OTC or otherwise, should only be taken with your doctors supervision, and any controlled substances may only be taken if one has a prescription approved for them.



I have struggled with this demon too. As far as OTC, I'd give Tylenol Simply sleep (go generic for less $)...It's basically the stuff in Tylenol PM but without the acedamedaphin (NSAID). Makes me pretty drowsy. Melatonin @ 3 grams is probably less strong, but can help. I didn't like ambien that much; had better success with lunesta.

There are also all of those non-pharm things to consider...Good matress, air quality of the room in which you sleep, temperature, etc etc but I'm guessing you're WAY beyond that...I just mention it because, hey, couldn't hurt right?

If it's anxiety, a benzodiazepine might be a good choice (xanax, valium, etc) Pretty much just a quick-fix to calm the nerves...work's instantly for anxiety rather than an SSRI or other class of anti-anxiety/depression meds which sometimes need weeks or more to start taking effect (though they may easily be the better choice for the LONG TERM treatment)

Like Marx mention, those herbalists might have some tricks up their sleeves (valarian/kava kava, etc)

Lastly I'll mention something that is very interesting (from a research-only point of view, of course ) GHB used in responsible amounts seems to be a very healthy alternative to standard "downers" like those found in some drugs and alcoholl. It is actually available in the US through Rx, but I'm assuming is quite hard to get the "OK" from your Dr. for it. Supposedly, it has some great sleep-inducing and quality of sleep enhancing effects, potential GH release, etc etc Perscrption name is XYREM:

"In the United States, the Food and Drug Administration permits the use of GHB under the trade name Xyrem to reduce the number of cataplexy attacks and excessive daytime sleepiness in patients with narcolepsy.[22]" -Wikipedia

Another cool write up:The Analyst - Internet Health Report: Treatment: GHB (Gamma-Hydroxybutyrate)

Lets keep the ideas flowing feelas, Awakened could use a helping hand.

[Awakened615]

Condor, I never had a sleep disorder til I got sick a month ago. I had something like walking pnuemonia and my lungs filled up with blood, fluid and mucus, When I got to te hospital the docs couldnt believe that I did not suffocate myself. I was only using 8% of my lungs to breathe. They put me in an isolated sealed room and put me on oxygen and pumped me full of antibiotics and shit for 4 days. I layed in that bed wide awake for 4 days and only got up to take a leak. I have not really slept since I came home except lastnite I got 5 hours of sleep and tonight I got almost 4. I am sure my body will come back to normal any day now. I am sleeping a little longer at least without any medicine at all. I have severe RLS which will wake me up out of a dead sleep, My legs will feel like they are being squeezed in a vice, It gets real painful sometimes I have to get up and walk around and stomp my feet on the concrete to make the pain stop. Flexeril has been working for me. I tried somas and they did nothing for this. As far as sleep goes I can only imagine how much stress I put in my body walking around with a 102+ fever for 2.5 weeks going about my daily routine like I was ok. I am stubborn sometimes and thought the sickness would pass which finally it has but not after a 4 night stay in the hospital. I just think maybe my seratonin levels are low right now from possibly lck of oxygen. I coudnt see straight until about a week ago. My vision was all fucked up but it finally came back. The body does need rest and hopefully soon I will be sleping normal and through the night. I lay here and envy my girl because she looks so peaceful and relaxed and I am up wide awake after a few hours lol.