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Old 07-25-2007, 01:01 PM
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Question Nolva during cycle?

Here's a Q for anyone in the know. I'm (still) waiting for my 1st order to come in, i'm going to run Test enen at 500/ew for 10 wks then follow up with nolva for 3 wks at 40/20/20. Prob ZMA to help PCT. Nothing else, just a simple starter.
Question is this; as i have only ordered enuff nolva to run the 3 wk PCT what do i do if i notice signs of gyno during the 10 wk Test cycle? Should i dip into my PCT supply and risk a shorter post therapy?
Am i risking getting caught-short?
Its just struck me that if after EACH or any jab i notice a gyno effect i'll be left with less nolva at the end. Or is it the case that if i have to run my AntiE during cycle i won't need any after? Or am i just getting worked up over nuffin...
Any ideas fellas? What do you do? Any thoughts welcome!
BTW i only ordered 30s tab of 20mg, it was a deal for a price... (Yeh, i should have ordered more nolva than i needed, but what u think guys?)
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I would get enough for alot of extra. Nolva is cheap my friend. ALWAYS...ALWAYS have enough for PCT.............. AND extra just in case of gyno symptoms. Cuz if symptoms do arise you are going to want to dump 80 mg's for a few days, and follow with 10-20 for the remainder of your cycle.....also do not ONLY do it for 3 weeks. 4 at the minimum!! I always do 40-30-20-20-10 (varies I guess) along with clomid and HCG. That ZMA shit...flush it down the crapper cuz that will do nothing drastic enough to highten your testosterone levels my friend. All in all buy more Nolva. Shit, if you were here in the U.S. I would donate some to you.
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Bighump yr a star man. Yr right it is cheap, i'll be waiting til i got everything i need. Tell you wot tho, i been waitin 4 weeks for my juice to arrive and at this speed i'm not going to get this cycle running til xmas!! Getting worried that i been ripped...
BH, i'd love to be in the US man. Visited a few years ago had a great time, i gotta get me one of those trans-ams. Fekking huge!
So the ZMA is a waste, fair enuff. Thats a quid saved. I been looking at trib also, this is pricey here, is it worth bothering with d'ya reckon?
Thanx fella!
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Bighump yr a star man. Yr right it is cheap, i'll be waiting til i got everything i need. Tell you wot tho, i been waitin 4 weeks for my juice to arrive and at this speed i'm not going to get this cycle running til xmas!! Getting worried that i been ripped...
BH, i'd love to be in the US man. Visited a few years ago had a great time, i gotta get me one of those trans-ams. Fekking huge!
So the ZMA is a waste, fair enuff. Thats a quid saved. I been looking at trib also, this is pricey here, is it worth bothering with d'ya reckon?
Thanx fella!


Thanx brother! Trans Am eh?? You should look at something with muscle...like a GTO...or maybe a Mustand GT Cobra!! As far as the Trib, using ma and pa supplements in the dark world IMHO is a waste as I think the stronger shit is less expensive and well it is illegal, and it works better and faster and you will keep gains better!!
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Hay man, do you realise that you have saved me wasting around 50 quid in only two replys! Thats about 100US.
I should buy you a beer or two BH.
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Bighump yr a star man. Yr right it is cheap, i'll be waiting til i got everything i need. Tell you wot tho, i been waitin 4 weeks for my juice to arrive and at this speed i'm not going to get this cycle running til xmas!! Getting worried that i been ripped...
BH, i'd love to be in the US man. Visited a few years ago had a great time, i gotta get me one of those trans-ams. Fekking huge!
So the ZMA is a waste, fair enuff. Thats a quid saved. I been looking at trib also, this is pricey here, is it worth bothering with d'ya reckon?
Thanx fella!

Trib doesn't do much for boosting test, but does help with libido.

If you have nolva, I would recommend getting either an AI(aromasin) or clomid/toremifine. These, along with nolva run at what BigHump stated (40-30-20-20-10) will aid in PCT recovery.

However, there are many good and effective natural test boosting products on the market right now. They will not work as well as a SERM/AI, but they may aid. Don't forget 6oxo does wonders for your libido(and muscle hardness).

I mean, isn't the saying you only gain as good as your PCT is?
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Thanx for that man, i'll look into it.
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with pct, you may also want to add in some fenugreek. I never used it before with my past pct's but this last one I did, made a difference. for some reason my boys came back fuller than in the past and helped with my recovery. you dont have to necessarily use it, but its another option along with whats been said so far.
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Nolva hands down. It offers all the benefits of a SERM, without the horrific sides of clomid. I don't know why anyone would even touvh clomid anymore.

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I only do 3 weeks of PCT and I have never had a problem. I use HCG during all my cycles from beginning to end and then follow it up with 3 weeks of nolva at 40/20/20 and I recover just fine. Last cycle I did was around 2000mgs EW of test and deca. I am currently doing 2700mgs EW of test, deca and d-bol and then I am dropping the d-bol and test and I am going to run 1/2cc of test 500mgs 6 days a week and deca at 750mgs EW. HCG has been running since day #1 and my PCT is nolva for 3 weeks at 40/20/20. Some people may tend to disagree but if you run the cycle right you really shouldnt need more than 3 weeks of PCT. I always have extra nolva on hand incase I ever get gyno, I have never had gyno but I still keep the nolva around because you never know. If you do get gyno during your cycle do nolva at 40mgs ED until the gyno subsides, maybe a week tops but usually 4-5 days. Then stop the nolva.


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