HCG needed?

[hedztrong!]

Good day to all! Im new to this site, and thankfully this has been a very invaluable source of infos for newbies like me. I just would like to seek your advice regarding the use of HCG- is it really necessary to use HCG for test only cycles like what im planning to do? I plan, as my first cycle to have test 500mg(Sustanon 250) per week for 10 weeks followed by 4 weeks of PCT using Nolva. Should HCG be included in this cycle? Thanks in advance!

[DGAF]

I think the use of HCG in any cycle is a very good idea. It helps with recovery alot. I use HCG during all my cycles, long and short, @500iu`s every 5 days. This seems to be just enough to keep out of atrophy and help speed recovery time up after the cycle is finished.



DGAF

[tinymk]

brother

Any AAS that will cause a gain in muscle will result in your natural test shutting down. Doesn't matter if it is test only or test/tren/dbol/EQ combo. Once you have an exgenous source that is higher then your own you shut down.

So yes, HCG during cycle is the safest method to keeo you up and running, this will assist in keeping gains, smooth tansition to PCT and increase the integrity of your testicals.

I prefer 250iu 2x a week on cycle starting from day #1..

Be safe
Tiny

[hedztrong!]

I see.... thanks for the help bros! Highly appreciated!

[tinymk]

Anytime brother, any questions always ask.

Someone gives you shit for asking tell em to Fuck Off!

be safe
Tiny

[cole617]

Any & EVERY time you touch AAS, it is the smart decision to run HCG. Not doing it is just lazy &cheap& -I hate to say.... borderline stupid. Why let the boys shrink & downregulate your bodies ability to receive the LH signal when yo doon't have to.

cole617

[hedztrong!]

Ok, guyz im sold to using HCG. Thanks for your infos. My question is,,,(sorry for asking too much) whats the best way to include hcg in my post cycle period? Some are saying to start hcg one day after the last test shot, to be run until the start of PCT. Other are saying to intermittently shoot during the cycle, while some will say to include it with nolva/clomid as part of a PCT program. Thanks in advance!

[DGAF]

If you are going to do it during cycle I would recommend starting the first day of your cycle and shooting 500iu`s every 5 days throughout your entire cycle all the way until 2 weeks past your last AAS shot.

If you are to do it post cycle you should wait until 2 weeks after your last AAS shot and then start HCG with your first shot being 2500iu`s and then 5 days after that shoot 2000iu`s and then 5 days after that shoot 1500iu`s then 5 days after that shoot another 1500iu`s and then 5 days after that another shot of 1500iu`s and that would complete your 3 week HCG post cycle therapy. Immediately following your last HCG shot start your post cycle therapy of clomid or nolva or a combination of both for the next 3 weeks and you should be GTG.

I prefer to run HCG during all cycles because it is easier to keep from going into atrophy than it is to come out of it. It takes alot smaller doses to maintain the LH signal than it does to bring the LH signal back from the dead. It also speeds the PCT up by about 3 weeks and makes recovery much easier.


DGAF

[hedztrong!]

Thanks, DGAF ! In regards to using it 2 weeks after the last jab, i have read that one should also be taking at least 20mg Nolvadex during that course, running it until PCT. Is that ok?

[DGAF]

Originally Posted by hedztrong!

Thanks, DGAF ! In regards to using it 2 weeks after the last jab, i have read that one should also be taking at least 20mg Nolvadex during that course, running it until PCT. Is that ok?

You dont have to take the nolva for that 2 weeks unless you start to get signs of gyno. The esters will be clearing in that time but your test levels still might be elevated enough to keep you out of gyno, but it may happen or it may not, just be on the lookout. Definitely use nolva for PCT as your estrogen levels will be way high and your test levels will be way low.



DGAF