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Old 05-31-2007, 02:43 AM
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I like a Tormafine/aromasin PCT

never used Clomid.I might try it as well as clomid next PCT and throw in some Hcg


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What is the chemical name for aromasin?

From what I've read Toremifine/Ralox acts like Nolva, but has no "negative" sides that Nolva does, do you find this to be true in your experiences ? What is the benefit of aromasin?

I am just trying to plan the perfect PCT for an 10 week straight cycle of Test E @350mg for a first cycle, and I know Ralox will take Nolva's place, but Aromasin will take the place of Clomid?
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What is the chemical name for aromasin?

From what I've read Toremifine/Ralox acts like Nolva, but has no "negative" sides that Nolva does, do you find this to be true in your experiences ? What is the benefit of aromasin?

I am just trying to plan the perfect PCT for an 10 week straight cycle of Test E @350mg for a first cycle, and I know Ralox will take Nolva's place, but Aromasin will take the place of Clomid?
Aromasin is the generic name. Brand name is Exemstane (sp?). I haven't tried toremfine, but I've never had any bad side effects from nolva. X could probably fill u in on the torem. I know he's used it.
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I used tormefine last couple times.

I have no complaints except for the fact that it is suspended and tastes like shit. LOL

I myself have never had any bad effects from Nolva.

The only reason I have the tormafine is because I got it for free.


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I used tormefine last couple times.

I have no complaints except for the fact that it is suspended and tastes like shit. LOL

I myself have never had any bad effects from Nolva.

The only reason I have the tormafine is because I got it for free.


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So what exactly did your PCT look like?
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weeks 1-2 20mg Tormafine/20Mg aromasin
weeks 3-4 20Mg tormafine

Added in ZMA before bed

Fenugreek throughout the day.

Thats it plain and simple,abnd IMO very effective.

Next time I think I am going to add some Hcg.

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weeks 1-2 20mg Tormafine/20Mg aromasin
weeks 3-4 20Mg tormafine

Added in ZMA before bed

Fenugreek throughout the day.

Thats it plain and simple,abnd IMO very effective.

Next time I think I am going to add some Hcg.

Kartel

Just so I get this right, the Tormafine will block the estrogen, and the aromasin will boost the test?

Would an addition of a fenugreek/avena sativa product be beneficial on top of that? Or was the fenugreek not really neccessary?

Lets say the cycle was of Test E/EQ for 10 weeks, you would start the PCT 2 weeks after last injection, but when would you start the HCG?

I'm helping a buddy plan a cycle of Test E/EQ and I am trying to figure out if he needs HCG for a 10week cycle. I told him so far Nolva/Clomid, but I may tell him Torem/Aromasin/HCG, unless the HCG is not neccessary.

I appreciate any help. Feel free to go as in-depth as possible, the more informed I am about this, the better I can plan my cycle in the future.
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Just so I get this right, the Tormafine will block the estrogen, and the aromasin will boost the test?

Would an addition of a fenugreek/avena sativa product be beneficial on top of that? Or was the fenugreek not really neccessary?

Lets say the cycle was of Test E/EQ for 10 weeks, you would start the PCT 2 weeks after last injection, but when would you start the HCG?

I'm helping a buddy plan a cycle of Test E/EQ and I am trying to figure out if he needs HCG for a 10week cycle. I told him so far Nolva/Clomid, but I may tell him Torem/Aromasin/HCG, unless the HCG is not neccessary.

I appreciate any help. Feel free to go as in-depth as possible, the more informed I am about this, the better I can plan my cycle in the future.

****I can't edit my post, so here's what I meant to say****

The Toremefine will work like the Nolva in blocking estrogen from binding and thus being utilized?

And the Aromasin will block the aromatase enzyme thus not allowing estrogen to be product, and also causing testosterone to be naturally produced at the same time?

So what kind of cycle would HCG need to be utilized in? And how would it be used on a 10/wk Test E/EQ cycle?

I appreciate all the information you can lend. I learned more this past week that I expected to learn in a year.

I ask a lot of questions btw. Sorry
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****I can't edit my post, so here's what I meant to say****

The Toremefine will work like the Nolva in blocking estrogen from binding and thus being utilized?

And the Aromasin will block the aromatase enzyme thus not allowing estrogen to be product, and also causing testosterone to be naturally produced at the same time?

So what kind of cycle would HCG need to be utilized in? And how would it be used on a 10/wk Test E/EQ cycle?

I appreciate all the information you can lend. I learned more this past week that I expected to learn in a year.

I ask a lot of questions btw. Sorry

Check your PM I replied

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