yeah still gives me a lot of shit still. scheduled for surgery on the 2nd of september, the doc is at least honest in syaing theres at best a 50/50 chance for ANY improvement lol. I just started lifting at all. anything seated as long as it isnt extreme weight is ok. Lying flat can sometimes cause alot of pain or spasms but it isnt frequent. For some reason I am better with dumbells than a bar, not real sure why lol. I am benching significantly less but I can.